Ward Words

When I try to go to their web page it just keeps popping up a JavaScript alert that says "??????? ???? ??? Internet Explore?? ???? ????". As far as I'm concerned, the answer to that question is "No, Firefox." The fact that their webpage won't work in Firefox is enough to tell me that they're full of crap.

It works in Firefox. You have to go to the English version of the website - http://english.watv.org/ .- Lucas -

1. Killed only to fulfill prophecy.
	Seeing as the price for our sin was also taken care of in this otherwise needless event, I'm certainly glad they at least bothered even putting it in the Bible.

2. Communion once a year.
	Legalism. I'm not even sure the quote "do this in remembrance" was a command. No matter because I just asked Jesus and he said that my birthday is on the same (low) level of importance as the creation of the universe, no biggie. Once a year may even be overkill.

3. Sunday worship vs. Saturday worship
	More legalism, perhaps. I really oughta look up the definition of that word maybe. Actually, by logic of statement 2 above, doing this on a weekly basis is sinful anyway. By the way, if you're one of those Christians that actually obeys and worships God every day of the week, shame on you. He knows... and He's very Pissed.

4. The 1940's were awesome and also Jesus came back.
	From what I've seen in movies and/or read in the Bible, the entire world is gonna know about this so called "second coming," without any room for doubt. Anyway, nevermind the difference between summer being NEAR and summer being HERE, metaphorically speaking that is.

5. Onyong, the Korean Galilean.
	Since King David ruled for 40 years, this guys Onyong ruled for 37 (and the three that Jesus had back before he needlessly died makes 40). This fulfills the prophecy: "The third time's a charm and it will probably happen in Korea."

6. Here's some other stuff I found on their website. (quotes!)

"Easter has absolutely nothing to do with the resurrection of Jesus [and is actually a day] honoring the pagan goddess, Easter." "God made a woman from the rib taken out of the man, therefore the woman ought to have a sign of authority on her head." (i.e. a covering veil) "To use cross as a symbol of church is an abominable thing to participate in the scheme of the devil who put Jesus to death." "The church that celebrates the birth of Christ on December 25 is heretic." They also believe in a female counterpart to God, and that she's living among us. I couldn't really find much about how that came about.

Ten thousand people can't be wrong, right?

Hello, I know of this Cult that you speak on, my husband is in it. Please it friends close your door too these people. My Hhusband has left me and our kids,because I will have no parts of it.My oldest son who is 19 went and he said they it scared the hell out of him. I have been to many churchs of all relgions and I have never seen nothing like this. They have talked my husband into getting out of the Navy, they told him that he had to walk like Jesus did, and he did not walk with the rich.That he walked with the poor so he had to give up all of the things of the world. They do studys at all hours of the day ( my husband has almost went UA because of these studied)they do all kinds of crazy things. They are about too go to Korea too see God, my husband said that he is there setting in a body. And that God is not a sprite that is every where that he is only in Zion, that is only in there church, so it you are in in Zion that you dont know the True God. Also that there Pastor was bastized by God his self at the young age of 5. In the Bible it said that no man will or has ever lived to see GOD.They said that if you dont do the passover that you serve a diffrent God and not of theres.They have a heavenly mother,and they also believe that Jesus was not supose to die that it was a mistake and that is where they get that the man that they pray to is the second messiah, because God or Jesus made a mistake. Now I dont know about you but GOD NEVER FAILS. But Jesus conveniently came back in 1948 to teach the Passover and you can go and see him in Korea too. Please if these people come to your door say thank you and close your door. I have loss my husband, his was my friend and my life to these people. I would not want any one too go through what I have this past year.The man who rums the Church in Korea is one of the riches men in the world. They take your money and have you and want you to live totaly off of them. They kill and destroy families homes and good people. PLEASE FRIENDS CLOSE YOUR DOOR TO THIS CULT. And to that anonymous vistor your are wrong,has your family been broken up,has you lost a part of your life too a heavenly mother, or to a fat guy over in Korea having people hand feed him grapes, has your family went with out so that Zion can live, has your children father stopped going to there basketball games and telling they that he dose not have time for them.Now I know of the holidays and how things have been changed, but some of the things that they speak of are just wrong.But you may belong to the cult and are looking to steal more lifes. No ten thousand people cant be wrong, they are just lost souls and you are your kind just live to kill them. I know that you have hear of JIM JONES,haven't you.

I have been in contact with Katrina, Like her, my 2 oldest kids have been sucked into this group. It's a bunch of crap. Everyone in this church gives 10% of their gross, no questions asked, no financial reports that I know of....check out www.skepticism.net/discussion
look for the link to "second messiah?" There are several of us family members who have been hurt by this church. This place has destroyed my family.

WMS COG is a Cult. They are Looney to say the least. A dead Korean man is the second coming of Christ ? Pretty insane huh ? Well, about hanging out with the poor, hang out with these people, if you ain't poor, you will be. This Church has mighty dollars and could fly in anyone they wanted to, to see "Mother" (whom they by the way also say is God) but they make the Robots pay their own way and then they shake them down again once their at HQ in Korea. She by the way was the Korean Guy's, at the time, very young Piece of Ass. The Korean guy was a Flunky from some other religion like Seventh Day Adventist but he relized how fuckin' gullable people can be. This Church was a way to keep "Mother" with a steady Cash Flow. This entire thing is a SCAM. Stay away from these mind numbed Robots. The reason they go to Korea is so they can teach the door knockers what to answer to whatever question a person may ask of them. Over time, they have developed lists of questions. They show the Robots where to flick to in the Bible, and flick they do, huh ? Show them some Counter-Proof and they'll tell you "That's a Parable" What a steaming Crock of Shit. Join us @ http://www.skepticism.net for further information.

I just encountered them at my work..actually two of the guys I work with!! I am going to be researching this whole thing...Lucas, I agree with what you are saying...they told me they believe that you can only achieve salvation if you are baptized and then "keep the passover" which is once a year...they also told me they dont believe in the rapture, and that Jesus has already come back, and that if you worship on Sundays you are following a pagan ritual started by Constantine!!! I tryed showing them Ephesians where salvation is not merited through your efforts but, instead is a gift from God but, they just wont budge! There is much more to say but, its so frustrating! Also, there are many pictures of Koreans all over the church...in fact, half the church was full of Koreans!

Hi Lucas,
I just read your blog. It seems to me you had a mind to really listen to what these two ladies were saying. You remembered alot of info. They left a lasting impressing on you. the Word of God is very powerful and your spirit must of reconized it.If I were you I would check into the Church. What do you have to loose. Somethings are for some people and somethings aren't. We won't agree on everything. Sounds like the other people who responded to your message have a problem with rules. I heard the Church of God in Co. is growing with all kinds of people not just Koreans. Besides God loves everyone.

It looks like the Church of God has left a lasting impression on your mind dear Diane certainly it is growing with people like you who might have had a personal problem and an easy prey to this cult waiting with hopes to reach heaven least knowing what they are into. Well if that makes you feel good fine then why should you even think of passing comments on this site. Like the others you too maybe one of the chosen ones like they called 144,000 I presume. Yes which God do you speak of Ahnsahnghong? we respect the word of God from the one and only true Bible not any books written by this man. Jesus is the only way. Got it.
If family members get trapped in this false doctrines it is certainly a matter of concern. God indeed loves everyone not when you go astray. He is so merciful and forgiving so even if it is do with Koreans or all kinds of people do not be blinded by false teachings.

By chance, did they tell you that they had $500,000 in a bank account in Nigeria and simply needed $1,000 to ensure your commitment to this endeavour.

I've been tricked by those guys a bunch of times.

I went to church on Saturday with my brother Daniel I was amazed on how he knew scripture when just a 5 months ago he didnt but it wasnt like he was excited about knowing the word he was more how do I say it hypmotized it was the same thing over and over he would jump all over the place. Im not liking this Im a christian and this nothing like this. He gives them money and never pays for his needs. please tell me how to get out of this mess someone help me (God help us)

ACTS 5:38~39
therefore, in the present case I advise you: leave these men alone! Let them go! Fr if their purpose or activity is of human origin, it will fail. But if it is from God, you will not be able to stop these men; you will only find yourselves fighting against God.

ACTS 5:38~39
therefore, in the present case I advise you: leave these men alone! Let them go! Fr if their purpose or activity is of human origin, it will fail. But if it is from God, you will not be able to stop these men; you will only find yourselves fighting against God.
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Dude there are alot of cults that can't be stopped, are they from God too?

Cut it out.

- James

People, there are so many denominations and traditions out there claiming to be the only true church. No one will ever know who or what the true church is. In their own right They teach of true gospel but shade away when their own thoughts are transcribed through the doctorines. When 2nd coming jesus arrives, we all had better be prepared, for he and he alone is the ONLY one allowed to judge us.

How many churches truly follow God's commands? Only 1. How many denominations were there in the Apostolic Church? Only 1. Did they obey all of God's commands? Yes. If you truly search the scriptures you'll see that the Church of God is not a cult, but the true church.

Please do not come to conclusions with the church of God not a cult but the true church.
Do visit the site below. There are people out there who have been with this church or have their family members and share their opinions.
http://www.skepticism.net
If they obey all commands then they break the first commandment i.e worshipping a false prophet and mother Jerusalem.

I have also been confronted with one of these guys... he knows the bible very well. But this guy he prays to.. Ahn sahng hong? I dont buy it. Alot of bad vibes coming from this hong character. And what is this about a "Holy Mother"? Thats a new one. Sounds like a mix of catholic and christian. Craziness. All those reading this beware of these people. Gaurd yourselves. This is not truth. Jesus is Lord and Savior. Not this Ahn sahng hong guy.

Thanks Josh for making these people aware who have been misguided and beleive this ghong to be the second coming Jesus. They preach about Jesus and ask their followers to pray in the name of this man who is dead. Moreover they talk against Mother Mary and have a mother Jerusalem in the church. What a B.S

Its me again... well just reading on "THERE" website it says that they have a holy mother that is in new jerrusalem (which they believe is korea)... That is a bunch of crap.. this man died. If he were God... he would have rose from the grave and ascended into heaven. The bible prophecies tell us that when Jesus comes again, us as christians will ascend into the clouds to meet Him. These guys like to twist the weak and the gullable... But these so called "prophets" really know about the bible. Gaurd your hearts. For those reading this "PLEASE DO NOT FALL FOR THIS HONG GUY". Read the bible for yourself! Jesus is my Lord and Savior. For those hong believers reading this... nice try! Im not that gullable.

Well turns out that this hong follower I have been talking to says that it was prophecied in the bible that this so called "korean savior" would be rejected. I cant find any proof backing up this statement. They say that the second coming messiah would come from the east... how many countries are east of jerrusalem? Alot... its like grabbing some country out of a hat and saying that its the new jerrusalem. This hong follower beats around the bush when it comes to my questions and directs me back to the passover. They say that "Mother" is refered in Rev 21. This is a bunch of crap. They are defenitely twisting the word of God. If we take a closer look... Rev 21 talks about the bride of Christ as in a spiritual aspect. Not a physical. The whole book of Revelations is to be inturrpreted on a spiritual level. These FREAKS with bibles are false prophets and we all know what God has and will do to false prophets. For those mindless hong zombies reading this, mabye you should open your eyes instead of telling us true christians to open our eyes to your lies about Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior. He is our God. Oh, and another thing... Easter is a celebration of Jesus's death and resurrection. Sinfull men have twisted it to worshipping a bunny or a roman/greek goddess. Not Christians. Get the facts straight. How dare you say that easter pagen holiday! Sham on you! Again, nice try!

Hello Josh if you visit the www.skepticism.net there has been a good discussion going on related to this church. An eyeopener to all the COG members to help you gullible people out from this cult
God Bless

Good Day all. This is in reference to some of the above comments.

Luke 18:8 However when the Son of Man comes will he find faith on the earth?

Hebrews 9:28 So Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many people, and he will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him.

If Jesus Christ established salvation 2000 years ago through the blood of the passover covenant, then why does Bible say he must come again and establish it? It must be because salvation was lost at some time. Christ had to come back to restore it...thus the second coming of Christ coming from the east. Truly if we study the scriptures we'll see. Bible says that when Jesus Christ came in the flesh 2000 years ago, he was rejected, by his own people. Because they expected the Messiah to be something more than a carpenters son or a mere man (Jn 10:31)

So if Christ has to come back to the earth to restore salavation he must do it in the flesh, as he did 2000 years ago. So if Christ comes back, will he find faith? No. This is why salvation must be restored.

Rev 3:11 I will write on him the name of my God, the new Jerusalem, which is coming down out of Heaven, from my God, and I will also write on him my new name. He who has an ear let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.

Here Bible says that Jesus will have a new name. We know that Jesus is God. When Jesus says I will write on him the name of my God, that is HIS NAME. In the old Test- the name of God was Jehovah. New Test- Jesus Christ, so in this age what will the name of God be? Clearly Bible says Jesus will give a new name. Then what will that name be? The one who fullfills all of the Biblical prophesy concerning God and the second coming. The root of David.

Please feel free to email me sometime for more study. I have open mind and am willing to chat more on Church of God.

God bless you.

David.

I actually went to this church with a friend. Everyone seemed so nice and it made me want to be apart of it. I really didnt understand the actual service but i did notice that everyone knew where to flip in the bible which was strange. After service i was taught two lessons one lesson was sabboth day which i thought could actually be true. But the lesson did seem well rehersed. i really wanted to belong to a church so i decieded to get babtized. While i was getting babtised he said in the name of the father the son and ahnsahnhong and at first i was like what is that but the he said it again and to be honest it scared me. All i could think of was who was this ahnsahnhong.Then i had the bread and wine and they said the name again. I left that night feeling bad like i was worshiping someone else. The next time i brought my friend and her dad is a chaplin who went to like missionary school so she knows alot. She just would not fall for it and said she thinks i shouldnt go back. But you want to hear something that is really weird when i went to the church my second time one part of my left arm was so cold i felt as if someone had ice on that one spot and everythime i talk about that church or Ahnsahnhong, my arm gets cold in that same spot. Even right now. My only concern is that my bestfriend of 4years goes there for about 8 months now and i think she just joined because of her fiance. I dont know if i should show here this stuff becuse i am afraid it will offend her and she may not speak to me, but i am worried about her.

Its a bit strange roomie but you must be made aware you are getting into a cult. Take care . Please visit www.skepticism.com there are good people out there discussing about this church and have their families caught into this cult. I am sure they will be able to help you out
God bless in the name of Jesus

How can you know God? Man can not think like God people go OH WHY GOD WHY have you done this to us!! These disasters and destruction of the people on this earth that is because people have forgotten GOD! Jesus said to the pharises DIDN'T MOSES GIVE YOU THE LAW?
YET NOT ONE OF YOU KEEPS IT!! Why are you trying to kill me?

Can you really sit there and bash on the truth like the pharises did? Why talk this way about Gods covenant?
Jesus established the covenant in marks upper room not one of you keeps it!!! so justify the way you speak to my Lord of Lords and King of Kings. In the last days the News will Go out from ZION the city of Gods appointed feasts and festivals aka THE CHURCH OF GOD!!

Brother Kendall
Church of God world mission society

My dear brother Kendall have you heard of false christ and false prophets. They are like wolf in sheep's clothing. How much do you know about this Father ghong or mother Jerusalem. I would advise you to do some research on your own. Refer to the testimonies of many COG's member. Every scripture is so well rehearsed. In simple words we call it being brainwashed.
Beware of the lake of fire. Worship no other God says the law. These disasters will happen before the second coming of Jesus. But you ghong whom you claim to be Jesus already came in secret and is dead. How come every eye shall see?

No Joshua you are the one that needs to watch what you do. God destroys those who do not do his will as we know in the old testament when the people did not keep the passover there first borns were all killed by plagues. Brain washed into what? Believeing in the passover! than you must not understand Jesus at all you neglect the one who gave you life!! Unless you eat the flesh of the son of man and drink his blood you have no life in you. My flesh is real food and my blood is real drink who ever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life he said that on the passover night only! Do the research mr joshua. THE LORD WILL ESTABLISH ZION IN THE LAST DAYS! Only God would want you to keep the passover on the that night because it is what gives man eternal life as Jesus said.

In simple words why do cults normally use scripture that only suit them. One must try to comprehend the Bible wholly not by flicking pages. As for passover was never abolished and always practiced well enough by the Jews. And this is what Jesus says about laws
Jesus told the story of the Good Samaritan in Luke 10:25 - 37 . A gentile ,a Samaritian who knows no nothing about Moses laws ,but he has mercy in his heart and God accept him.
If ghong kept the passover then why must he die because he was baptized by the adventist and decided to start his own business with mother taking over after his death (He died due to blood clot in brain), she has health problems. Can't you see what goes round comes round. This is how God destroys people who squanders others of their hard earned Money. And you weak and gullible people who consider them God what will be your end the lake of fire. God has given me the Holy Book and his spirit to guide me. I do not live in fear that is put into you of end times of disasters, destructions etc . I've entrusted myself in the Lord's care and he shall be the Judge

Hi Kendall and David ,

I have some very good friends they joined the Church of God few months ago. I think people have the right to believe what they want. My friends invite me to join their Bible study .
I think the member of the Church of God are very nice friendly people. They clearly hold an alternative interpretation of the Bible. I found their "way of thinking " very refreshing.

As we go into the detail of the scriptures ,I show them I don't understand their interpretation of the Bible. And there are some scriptures it seems contradict with their teaching. I asked them if they could explain it to me ,but they didn't give me a directly respond. They have a pattern of changing to a different subject or ignore you ,if they couldn't answer your question. When I try to bring them back to the original question , they told me the Bible has double meaning. The sample ,straight forward meaning and the spiritual ,hidden meaning .

They said, "I can't see the hidden meaning ,spiritual meaning if I am not a believer of the Korean Christ Ahn Sahng Hong . Only a believer can see the spiritual ,hidden meaning of the Bible."

They said , "Nobody would understand the message of the Korean Christ Ahn Sahng Hong if people use the normal way to read the Bible.

They said , "People can only see the truth ,after they give up everything and follow the Korean Christ Mr. Ahn Sahng Hong."

They told me , " I need to believe it first, it will make sense to me later ."
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Their "funny logic" do not make any sense to me .

If you ask a person lay down all his doubt ,of course he can believe anything.

If I deny the logic of physics ,I can make myself believe that I can fly.

But that would be insane.


Can I understand the teaching of the Korean Christ Ahn Sahng Hong without losing my mind ?


Thank you very much


Creasy

In simple way of putting is that Jesus Christ kept the passover with his disciples saying that they had eternal life through it and it was to be a lasting ordiance even for generations to come we can see plainly that Generations must be even now how do you disagree with this is beyond my thinking Jesus said him self these people come near to me with thier lips but there worsphip of me is in vain their teachings of men. Matt7:21 states that Not everyone that says to me Lord Lord will enter the kingdom of heaven but only he who does the will of my father. They will say to me on that day did we not prophcey in your name and in your name drive out demons and peform many miaricles then i will plainly say away from me you who practice of lawlessness. In other words this means not all beleievers will enter into the kingdom of heaven but only those who do the WILL OF MY FATHER (which is Jesus). The bible even shows the disciples keeping the festival after Jesus death saying let us keep the festival (passover). In the old testament God said that The passover will bring judgement of all the false gods of isreal he also said that this passover is to be kept even for the generations to COME simply you can not know Gods will if you do not humble yourself enough to keep Gods holyest feast! How can you call us false worshippers when you keep christmas easter sunday worship all of these are worships of false gods and are not stated in the bible anywhere yet we keep all the festivals and feasts of God stated in the bible that even Jesus kept!!! Brothers we have the capability now to destroy the whole world in 30 minutes the bible says that God will destroy it by fire in the last day please i beg of you dont only believe in God because pretty much "everyone believes" but remember his words. Remember only Noah and his family was saved during the times that God destroyed the world the first time with water because no one would hear Noah he told the people come to the Ark God is going to destroy this earth with water there disblief altimitly destroyed them.
Creasy i will answer any question you want to ask feel free to ask me. Im not trying to tell you what to believe and you will see everything that i say is in the bible even Christs second comeing.

thank you.

Brother Kendall
Church of God world mission society

Hi Brother Kendall ,

Thank you so much for your reply,

Tell you the truth ,I really enjoy the friendship of the people of Church of God. They are really nice people. I want to join the church ,I love being with them. I want to going to their church, it is mainly because of the people. I have a very hard time understand the teaching of the church , but since nobody in the church were asking any question. I don't want to be the only one who ask question, and making everybody uncomfortable.

But coming here I feel I can be honest and ask question openly.

I am not try to argue or debate , I just want to learn and understand .

#1.The number one thing I don't understand about the Church of God is the Accusation of other churches not remember the teaching of "Blood and Wine".
The other churches do remember the teaching of "Blood and Wine". They just call it the Holy Communion , they do the exact same thing as do you would do to remember the "blood and wine".
You call it the Passover .They call it Holly Communion .

Both Churches use the ceremony of "Blood and Wine" to remember Jesus Christ die for mankind. The only different is ,the Church of God insist the "Blood and Wine" ceremony can only be remember once a year on the Passover day. The Church of God think it is a terrible sin to remember Jesus "Blood and Wine" teaching on any other day.

I read the Bible cover to cover , the Bible didn't say it is forbidden to remember the "Blood and Wine" more than once a year .

Jesus didn't say we must remember the "Blood and Wine" only on Passover day.

I want to know if it is Ahn Sahng Hong's teach people that we should only remember "Blood and Wine" on the Passover day.
Because I couldn't find such a teaching in the Bible.

And I really don't understand why it is a sin if people remember the teaching of "Blood and Wine" more than once a year ?

And where did Bible say we can not remember the teaching of "Blood and Wine" more than once a year ?

#2. The church of God accuses the other churches of "Idol worship ", that is the second thing I don't understand .

I am even more trouble by the Church of God feeding the message of hostility among brother and sister . Encourage members to hate Christians , I think that is something seriously wrong about it.

Spreading the message of hate, isn't it against the teaching of the Bible ?

In the Old Testament , the ten commandment God commanded : You shall have no other God but me. In Moses time ,the Jews were slaves in Egypt for 500 years, they were used to worship the Egyptian's god and the other nation's god like Babylon's god Bale . Therefore God gave them the clear instruction to only worship the Jewish's God and forbid them to worship the idol.

But the Church of God suggested the other churches worship the cross, and teach the brother and sister Christian is idol worshipper. That is rather disingenuous accusation .
Honestly ,where do you get the idea Christian "worship" the cross ?

Isn't it in the ten commandment , God says : Do not give false witness ?
Christian do not "worship" the cross , I don't understand why did the Ahn Sahng Hong Church of God tell people that Christians worship the cross ?

If you accuses people something they didn't do ,isn't that is giving false witness ?

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It is true the Bible says we should not make any symbol out of a false god and worship it. But the cross it a symbol for the REAL God, not the false god. It a like a husband asking his wife not to love other man but only love the husband .And the wife has a picture of her husband in her pocket, what is wrong with that ? It is wrong if the wife has other's man's picture, but just having her own husband picture, that is not a sin. The cross remind us of God's love , remember God's love is not sin .

There are many places in the Bible mention important of the cross.

"For Christ sent me, not to give baptism, but to be a preacher of the good news: not with wise words, for fear that the cross of Christ might be made of no value.

For the word of the cross seems foolish to those who are on the way to destruction; but to us who are on the way to salvation it is the power of God."
1 Corinthians 1:17,18

The Apostle said in 1 Corinthians 1:17,18 that,Paul said the word of the cross is the power of God.

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"For I had made the decision to have knowledge of nothing among you but only of Jesus Christ on the cross."
1 Corinthians 2:2

The Apostle said in 1 Corinthians 2:2 that ,Paul has decide to speak nothing but Christ on the cross.

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Christian remember the teaching of cross ,but Christians don't worship the cross. Why do the Church of God accuses the Christians of idol worship ?

The Bible constantly talk about the teaching of the cross.
God use the cross as His glory and Christ overcome death through the cross.
The Bible described the cross as the great power of God ( 1Corinthians1:18)
The Bible described the cross as the wisdom of God ( 1 Corinthians 1:23)
The Bible described the cross as the glory of God ( Colossians 2 :15 )

The cross reminds people of Christ's salvation .

What is wrong with talking about the teaching of the cross ?

Didn't the Bible speak of many important teaching about the cross ?


Thank you



Creasy

Yes i do believe God made a great triumph over satan through the cross but does this mean we should bow down before a cross and worship God? Just like the people did when God told moses to put the bronze snake around the pole that God said if they look at it they will be healed. After that they worshiped the bronze snake saying that it was the snake that gave life but in reality it was Gods mighty word that gave them life. Instead of worshipping God they worshiped the bronze snake. Now its a shadow and reality of the cross people bow down before the cross and think that it gives life pretty much every christian church has a cross outside and most have one inside too. Our Church does not tell you what to do or what to believe but if we truly have the truth and the others do not how hard will we try to convince some one to worship God only? Of course we will try our hardest to lead all people to Zion which is Gods holy hill or the church bought by Gods blood. No where in the bible will you find "let us go to the baptist church or let us go to the catholic church" but it says Church of God which Jesus established 2000 yrs ago with his blood. After a while Jesus commands were abolished by satan because God said i will hand over the saints for a times times and half a times. Idolatry's true meaning is that you dont follow God in accordance with the way of man. But we should follow God through the covenant that he made with man. One of teachers of the law tested Jesus with this question what is the greatest commanadment? Jesus replied to love God with all your heart and with your strength and all your soul. In 2 kings King hezikiah and king Josiah celebrated the passover and it said that they loved God with all there heart and with all there strength and with all of there soul. Same bible same God! Everything we teach is directly from the bible i was also in another church but there was no truth there i never could understand anything they taught because not everything was in the bible and they told us things without reffering to the bible. How can i teach you the bible without proveing it through the bible? If God was hung with a nuce or shot with a Gun would you adorn it around your neck or put it up to sybolize God in your church? No you wouldn't but because everyone does they think its right. It was the blood shed on the cross and faith in Jesus that gives us eternal life and God gave us it to drink on the passover night. No where does it say holy communion it says Passover. Even God waited until the appointed time at twilight to keep the passover if we can do it at any time Jesus wouldnt have waited and said that he eagerly desired to keep this passover with them. At the appointed time. And i will get back to you about those bible verses later after i find them and read them over.

Brother Kendall
Chruch of God world mission society

well creasy before you join them make sure you know who is father ghong and the mother jerusalem. They sound and taste so good like a topped icing cake.
After all there will be false prophets and false christs in end times, who will create denominations in the church.
May Holy spirit guide you . Have faith in Jesus and no other Gods however hard they try to preach the same set of scriptures over and over again. Its all well rehearsed. Brother Kendal still owes me a reply about the ghong and mother they pray

hey creasy, here is the study about the cross being an idol

Ex 20:4 " you shall not make yourself an idol in the form of "anything" in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below you shall not bow down to them "or" worship them for I the Lord your God am a "jealous" God punishing the children for the sins for the fathers of the third and fourth genereations.

* so through this we can understand God will punish those who bow down or worship anything but God.

Lev 26:1 " do not make idols "or" set up an image "or" a sacred stone in your land to bow down before it. I am the Lord your God.

* so through this we can understand that we should not bow down before "anything" except God.

Jer 10:2-8 this is what the Lord says: "do NOT LEARN the ways of the NATIONS "or" be terrified by signs in the sky though the nations are terrified by them. " for the customs of people are worthless they cut a tree out of the forest and a craftsmen shapes it with his chisel. They adorn it with silver and gold; they fasten it with hammers and nails so it will not totter. Like a scarecrow in a melon patch there idols cannot speak the must be carried because they can not walk. "Do not fear them; they can do no harm nor can they do any good."

* through this we can understand that God says "do not learn the ways of the nations. God said the customs of peoples are worthless. God says the fasten them with hammers and nails so they do not totter and like a scarcrow in a melon patch there idols cannot speak. so if you think about this ..think of a tetter totter at a park it has to sides and it goes up and down but God says they fasten them so they will not totter. and think about a scarecrow it has its arms streched out like in the shape of a cross.

Det 27:15 "curse is the man who carves an image or cast an idol a thing detestable to the Lord the work of the craftsman's hand and set it up in secret.

please creasy i would like to have a study over the phone i think that it would be easier to understand and then you can also ask me anything you would like. my number is: 704-819-4877 dont be shy please call it is important to me that i can explain these things until you fully understand.

and Joshua we do not rehearse anthing its not a play we just teach exactly from the bible through what Jesus said and did.No one has to believe us we are not forcing it on anyone but this we believe is the truth and we will never teach anything that is not in the bible. and by the way you never got back to me about where it says to celebrate christmas, easter, or sunday worship???
if you have any questions about that i can go to history books and prove there falseness.

Hello , Brother Kendall

You really can answer my question,thank you very much.

Brother Kendall ,I really want to believe the Church of God is the truth.

I want to understand the teaching .

I feel I am very close to the become a member.

Thank you for trying to answer part of my question, I still have some thing I don't understand .

I hope you can make it more clear, thank you for trying to answer .

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Brother Kendall You said :

"We shouldn't bow down before a cross and worship God. "

You quoted Exodus 20:4 God forbid people to make idol and worship Idol.

#1.But the cross was made a symbol of God's power by God , not by men.

God created the idea of the cross as a symbol of His power .

This is the teaching from the Bible. (1 Corinthians 1:17,18)

#2.And Christians do not worship the cross, Christians remember the teaching of the Bible about the cross.

The Bible want people to focus on the teaching of the cross.

Paul said the teaching of the cross is the message of salvation.

Christian remember the cross. But remembering the cross does not mean worship the cross.

#3.In the Old testament ,God does not allow the Jews to make any idol and worship it. But God commanded people to made many "Holy items" ,so people will remember Him. For instant :

"You are to make a plate of the best gold, cutting on it, as on a stamp, these words: HOLY TO THE LORD." 28:37 Exodus

"And in the bag you are to put the Urim and Thummim, so that they may be on Aaron's heart whenever he goes in before the Lord"28:30 Exodus

"And let them make me a sanctuary ,the Ark "25:8 Exodus

God ordered people in great detail to build all kinds of objects for Him, so people can memory Him. It is not unusual for God to ask people to a symbol to remember Him. Please look at 13:9 Exodus ,God want the Jews to put a sign on their hand,a mark on your brow to remember God's law.

"And this will be for a sign to you on your hand and for a mark on your brow, so that the law of the Lord may be in your mouth "13:9 Exodus

Use the cross to remember God is not a sin ,it is a tradition in the Bible .

Because the cross is chosen by God ,and it is approved by God as a symbol to remember Him.

Just like "The Ark" was a men made object ,but " the Ark" was God's idea to built ,and it represent the power of God.

The cross was also a men made object . But it was God's plan that Christ die on the cross. And the cross also represent God's power.
1 Corinthians 1:17,18

Accusing Christians worship the cross not only make the Church of God look strange, it also stop people from joining the Church of God.

Paul said he will not talk about anything but the cross 1 Corinthians 2:2 .

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Brother Kendall:

I went to the Sabbath service for about six month now .I never heard the brother talks about the message of Jesus die for people's sin. Not only the Church of God is anti-cross but I am wondering if the Church of God is also anti the message of Christ die on the cross ?

A brother told me ,there are 3 different period in the Bible ,the Jehovah God period ,Jesus Christ period and the Holy Spirit period.

The Holy Spirit period is also the Ahn Sahng Hong period , because we are in the Ahn Sahng Hong period therefore the Church of God want people to focus on Ahn Sahng Hong and stop talking about Jesus Christ .

Is it true ? We should stop talking about Jesus Christ .

And focus only on Ahn Sahng Hong ?

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Brother Kendall You said :

"The Jews instead of worshipping God they worshiped the bronze snake. That was a shadow and reality is the cross people bow down before the cross and think that it gives life ."

Wait a minute here brother Kendall . Can I count on your words as representation of The Church of God point of view ? And please be careful with your language.

#1.You made a comparison of Jews worship the snake as to Christians and the cross.

The Jews worship the snakes, for the Bible tells us that.

But Christians worship the cross ,it was simply a false statement .

Christians do not worship the cross.

Just because the Jews worship a bronze snake ,doesn't equal to Christians and the cross .
You need to have prove.

#2.You said ,the Jews is a shadow and Christian are the reality .

You said there is a connection .But the Bible never says there is such a connection .
The Jews worship a bronze snake ,is not equal to Christians to the cross.

The ten commandment says ,You shall not make false witness , the word "witness" means you got to have solid prove for a crime before you make accusation against anyone.

"The Jews is a shadow and Christian are the reality" , that is an illogical random accusation against Christians .You can't randomly accuse people as idol worshiper. You got to have prove. Can you prove your theory from the Bible that "the Jews is a shadow and Christian are the reality" ? Or is it only your personal opinion ?


#3.When you see a person worship "before" a cross ,but you can't prove he is worship "to" a cross , can you ?

We pray and worship in the Church of God . We always have a brother standing in front of the crowd when we worship.

The people are worshiping "before" the brother ,but it doesn't mean people are worshiping "to" the brother , do you understand ?


#4.More important , Christians are singing song of praises to the name of Jesus Christ in the church when they worship God .

Christian are praying in the name of the Jesus Christ in the church when they worship God .

Christians are worshiping in the name of Jesus Christ in the church ,how can you accuses them of worshiping the cross?

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to be continue..

Brother Kendall You said :

"After a while Jesus commands were abolished by Satan."

But Jesus said in Matthew 16:18 , the Church can not be destroy by power of Satan.

" That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. " Matthew 16:18

What do you mean by Satan abolished Jesus command ?

Where do you get that idea , is it Ahn Sahng Hong teach people that Satan abolished Jesus command ?

Are you sure it is from the Bible ?

And how do you explain Matthew 16:18 ?

because God said I will hand over the saints for a times and half a times.

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Brother Kendall You said :

"God gave us it to drink on the Passover night. No where does it say holy communion it says Passover."

Actually that is not true.
In 1 Corinthians 11:20 ,the Bible called Jesus "Blood and Wine" :
"the Lord's supper " ,
And in 1 Corinthians 11:33 the Bible called it :
" the Holy meal of the Lord"

The Bible didn't call it the "New Passover".
The Bible call it "the Lords supper " ," the Holy meal of the Lord"

" Communion" is actually a fancy word for "Supper" , so "Holy Communion" is really mean "Holy Supper" or " the Lords Supper "
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Brother Kendall You said :

"Even Jesus waited until the appointed time at twilight to keep the Passover."

Talk abut Shadow and reality , the Old Covenant and the New Covenant.

#1.Isn't the Passover was the shadow , the reality is the Jesus "Blood and wine" on the Lords Supper ?

Jesus waited until the Passover because He need to scarify His life ,like the lamb of the Passover. Jesus need to be the Passover lamb to fulfill the prophecy.

There is a reason that Jesus need to wait until the Passover to scarify His life, but why can people allow to remember God's love more often ? There is no reason to restrict people to remember Christ die for us only once a year . I could not find such teaching in the Bible.

#2.John the Baptist was prepare the way for Jesus ,when Jesus came already .People should not keep thinking about John the Baptist but focus on Jesus .

The same case for Passover , The Passover was only there as a shadow , to prepare the way for the reality : Jesus "Blood and wine" .

When we already have the reality, Jesus "Blood and wine", we should stop thinking about the shadow, the " Passover" .

Shouldn't we only focus on the new covenant Jesus "Blood and wine", and not focus the shadow the " Passover" ?

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Brother Kendall You said :

"The Church of God does not tell you what to do or what to believe."

But I am a good friend with a brother he gives speeches every Saturday ,he also goes to the street corner o preach once or twice a week.

He shows me all his material are provided by the Church of God . He has show me the Church of God instruction manual .The booklet that he used it has many chapters inside and it has many different fine points ,many detail instruction in what to say to people and how to response to people question.

My friend he used the Church of God's booklet word for word. He follow the Church of God instruction exactly as described in the training manual . The instruction and training from the Church of God really made him a pretty good speaker. One time , there were another brother came to visit us from another States. His preaching style is exact copy the same way as my friend did. If I close my and listen ,I would not know the different . And sometime I goes on the net for the 8:00 p.m. cyber service .And all the brother talk and speak exactly the same way. They must received the same instruction or training from the main Church.

I am wondering , what do you mean when you say:" The Church of God does not tell people what to do or what to believe." ?

May be the Church of God from your country is different than the one we have in America.

Because The Church of God here, do tell people in great details of what they should do and what they should believe .

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I feel I want to join the Church ,but the thing that I do not understand is keeping me from going forward. I feel I am very close to the become a member.

It will great if you can satisfy my doubt point by point. If my question was not answered directly ,my doubt will not go away.

Thank you very much

Creasy

Creasy i see your points and i would like to discuss it with you if you could please call me my number is
704- 819-4877 it would be so much easier to talk to you this way

Thank you

The thing is the Creasy is that there really is no profound truth in any other churchs other than the Church of God that even i have found every one dis owns God's teachings because they think its ok not to follow it fully that they can do it however they want. Christian means "Christ like" does it not? So if God commanded us to celebrate to Sabbath and also Jesus kept the sabbath then why dont people do it? That is because they do not belong to God.

CAll ME on the phone Creasy

Hello Brother Kendall ,

I am very grateful for your offer ,I will think about if I should call you .

But thank you for your generosity ,I really appreciate your help.

Creasy

But I am worry calling you directly might actually not helping me to better understand the teaching of the Church of God. Because I think better with something in front of me.

If you print your words on this site it give time to think ,mentally I can pause and go back to it. It would help me a lot, and I think it would also be a great service to all the people who is interested in joining the Church of God.

to be continue...

I am very close to the people of the Church of God ,and it is very difficult to ask them any question. They always quote Mr. Kim Joo Cheol from the Korean HQ.

Mr. Kim has a famous line:

"Those who reject Gods truth deserve Gods judgment. And they will never escape God punishment in HELL"

It make me very uncomfortable about asking question. There is a culture in the Church of God, they are taught to hate Christians , if I openly disagrees with their teaching ,I am afraid they will hate me too. I do not want my friends from the Church to turn against me ,but that is nothing I can do.

Sometimes when I have some teaching I don't understand , I would just keep it to myself. There is another culture in the Church that they do not like people having "little faith ". They expect you to believe and not having any doubt.

I have seen a new comer came to join the Bible study ,he ask a question about the Bible reference of "People were angels" teaching . The Church member immediately gave him a nasty look, like he was a dirty rat.

I am already good friends with the people of the Church of God. I want to be nice to them. But I have a feeling that the people in the Church of God want to use their "friendliness" to subtly discourage me to ask question .

It is hard to described ,it is almost like they are saying ," If you want to be treated like a family ,you better accept the teaching and not ask any question. Otherwise you are a Evildoer "

As soon as I became friends with the people of the Church of God ,I felt the tension immediately. Even they would tell you ,the Church welcome question .But when you bring up a question ,and you are not satisfy with the answer they give you .They will say things like this:

" Why do you hate God ? ",

" Why do you follow the false teaching ? " ,

" If you do not accept the truth ,you are not my brother ."

That was not the answer I was expecting .

Just reading the expression on the long faces and their body language ,I know they really don't want to answer any of my questions .

And I don't want to ask them any question any more.

Every time I try to have a serious discussion with the people of the Church of God , instead of getting an answer they will give me this "Hush puppy eye look " or the "Evil eye look" .

They just want me to join them, and threaten to give me a cold shoulder , "an isolation treatment" if I don't stop asking question.

They are playing with my emotion, they are playing "Mind Game" with me. I know they are taught to response to people's emotion, I have seen their training manual. I don't blame them ,because they thought they are helping me.

But it is really strange if I ask a question ,they will look at me like I just did something bad. But this is exactly what they want me to feel ,so I will not ask anymore question.

But I rather they answer my question directly ,instead of playing this "emotion mind game" with me.

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I just want to understand the teaching ,and I do not want people to make me feel bad about asking question.

Brother Kendall if you are not comfortable reply in this site ,can you recommend someone who can answer my question here ?

Thank you


Creasy

We are taught through the bible not to mix ourselves to often with the spiritual dead. They bring around curseing and blaphmies. Jesus said for us not to mix our selves in with the spiritual Babolynians because God is a jealous God and you can provoke his anger quickly he does not mess around with his commandments. As we can see in the old testament people were even put to death through stoning for working on the sabbath. Just because Jesus was nice does not mean he does not take his commands strongly as we know when he yelled at the pharrises for keeping people out of the kingdom of heaven by not following Gods commands. The Church of God is strict with the teachings and do not except anything that is not plainly written in the bible. Why would we listen to a wolf in sheeps clothing that brings gentle herises that will ultimately destroy us in Gods firece anger in the last day? It so simple to understand yet people have there spiritual eyes closed precieve everyone is false that there is no way christ could come again. There are two studies that opened my eyes that allowed me to know that the second comeing christ has come is "The root of david" and "what the 7 thunders spoke." The lamb the Root of David is the only one that could understand the parables and release the truth that was hidden during the bibical dark ages. Only he can establish Zion or also known as The Chruch of God.


Creasy do yo have AIM or MSN or Yahoo IM? If you do let me know your screen name so i can talk to you.

thanks for listening Creasy

Matt 7:21 Not everyone one that says lord lord will enter the kingdom of heaven only those who do the will of the father who is in heaven.

In the english standard verison and some king james versions it says that Jesus said "those who practice lawlessness will not enter the kingdom"

Jesus said this to the pharises and sudecces "Hasn't moses given you the law? Yet not one of you keeps it!"

So how can sunday worship, Christmas and easter please God it cannot because it is not Gods will it is false god worship and foolishness.

Hey everyone

I got envolved with the church of God about a year ago and so far its been the best thing in my life before i had been taught the truth ..i wanted to be saved so bad i was catholic then babtist and in neither of those chruches did i find truth but when i met someone who taught me the truth i laughed because i thought it was a joke actually it was a really good friend of mine who tryed to teach me i would always try and pull him away and talk to him about leaving the church and to stop this nonsense.....but one day i finally decided to listen and everything that was taught to me was true...maybe not 100% clear but much more clear then any other church...and i decided to be batized about 4 months into learning...and all you people exagarate this church so much...these people have been the nicest most loving people i have ever met....and when i went to all the other false churches I felt like a stranger... they are very serious about the truth yes. because they know it is the truth and just as you are very strong in what you believe...dont tell me how these people are because i am these people .. just as everyone elese does i go out and preach and you know what i never force anybody to believe anything but i teach them what i know and try my best to explain it and if they decide to join the thats wonderful but if not i move on. and yea there is a thing called a sermon book that is givin to you to show how to explain all the truth but it is just bible verses to show where they are in the bibe ..it definatally does not show how to anwser someone back...but alot of us teach the same because thats the way it should be done and the book shows us the best way to teach people exactly through the bible without the book it would be harder because we would have to sit there and look thru the whole bible and write down all the spots we see the verses instead they give us a book showing where all the verses are and if nobody believes they can look for themselves its just bible versus and then an explanation of what it means thats it. I know its very hard for people to let go of names also but think about the people who worshiped Jehovah when he came to the earth his new name was Jesus and when he died then people had to pray in his name its not the name that matters..its just a name and God even states in Rom:9 christ came once and he will come again a second time but not to bear sin but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for me ... honestly do you think God is gonna pop out of the sky and say hey everyone Im God ...no God does not work that way ..and as you know christ means God in the flesh and it says clearly Christ will come again. in Isa. it says "I will summon up a bird of prey from a far off land in the east a man to fufill my purpose. and if you know the second comming came from the farthest east from the continent..he came from south korea. and someone also said the church is almost all korean well obviouslly if Father came as a korean man the second time its much easier for people who are of that nature to believe but God as you know Loves everyone black,spanish,asain,korean,white etc..it does not matter to him but God thinks diffrently and would come as someone most people whouldent expect think about how Jesus came He is God yet he did not live in rich house ..he came and lived off of barely anything...Jesus works in ways we would not expect. also the church is very mixed there is all diffrent kinds of people white and black and spanish its not just korean whoever comes to God comes to God no matter what race you are God is not raciest. honestly but for you to sit here and put down this church as if it is a place where people brainwash people and do all this crazy stuff you talk of....... your making it up in your head because believe me i am not brainwashed ...I gave the church a chance and i found truth in it but not because of what the people said but because of what they showed me exactly in the bible.and O there was also a story i herd about how the catholic preist had sex with a young boy..that is descusting but I would never be like "o these cathlc people are horrible they all try and make you believe this nonesense and then they do bad things to people"...No i wouldent and that wouldent be right. But i was catholic at one time but like i said i havent found any truth in it and i eventually seen all these things that they do that they think are christ like ..but they are actually doing it all opposite. and some of the people are very nice but they are tricked in ways they dont even know. They worship Idols {cross} and God pasifcally states not to ..to only Worship him think about what the cross is it was just an object man shaped into a cross and killed Jesus on. and the bible stated not to add anything to it. yet people celebrate chrismas and easter and all these holidays which are no where in the bible. Yet our church is the only church that keeps the feast of tabernacles and the Feast of unleavened bread etc. all which our stated directly in the bible nobody could actually deny that. They can defintially come up with good excuses because they think this is some big scary cult we pull people into..we are not big mean monsters we preach from the bible and sometimes its fustrating for us to know so much truth and explain it but yet people throw a millon excuses because they dont wanna leave their customs which are man made because everyone else in the world does it ..they think it is right.

Sister Ashley
Church of God world mission society

By the way if your gonna say his name say it right its not ghong ...its ahn sahng hong

thankyou

Ashley you are another brainwashed cult You people are constantly attacking the catholic church. Is that what you go round preaching creating hatred. You talk of priest having sex then I ask what was ghong's relationship with the mother? Why do you people refuse to speak about them. Because the real truth is hidden from you. Please do further research before you worship satan. Oh yes the church is very good for you how many free meals and smiles & hugs did you receive to be lured into this load of hogwash.
And now I tell you solemnly
Matt 7:21 Not everyone one that says lord lord will enter the kingdom of heaven.
I can imagine what will be your state and reaction once you know the truth my dear dumb robot.
Praying for your poor souls who have been misled into this bullshit.

Joshua
"If you swear you are already condemed"

So why do you ignore the bible that you so believe in? The catholic church said it was ok to worship images and during the tribulation 70 million people were killed by the catholics and the roman army! They changed Gods set times and laws so why dont you do some research buddy. So next time you come at us think before you act.

Joshua ,

With all due respect ,can you say something productive ?

It is better to light a candle than to curse the darkness.

I don't care for your harsh language. Please be considerate.

thank you

Creasy

Hi Ashley ,

I am so glad to see your post ,I felt like I know you . Because your experience is so close to mine.

I have been going to the Church of God Saturday worship for about 6 month now, I agree with you 100% that the people I met in the church of God are definitely the nicest people I know. When I was attending other churches I was often being treated like a stranger .

I am happy you have such a positive experience about the Church of God. I am thinking about joining myself. Seeing your story give me a lot encouragement. I really appreciate it you are sharing your story.

Joining a Church is a important decision for me. By joining a church I am identify myself with its teaching. I can't join a church if I am not sure about its teaching .If I join the church I will put myself behind it 100% . Accepting a religion it is long term commitment .I need to be careful and study all the finer point before I sign my name on the contract. I can't plunge into the decision without thinking about it.

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About your experience in the Church of God, I really want to ask you ,when you say
after you listen to your friend talk the church of god ,you said ,"Everything he said was true." What do you mean by that ?

What exactly did he tell you that make you think it was true ?

I was studying the teaching of the Church of God , I found many teaching from the Church of God just doesn't add up to the Bible.

When I asked them to explain it to me ,they couldn't give me a very good answer . And they want me to accept the answer they offer me. But I am not satisfy with their answer . I don't know what to do ?


Thank you



Creasy

god bless you brother. what questions didn't get answered? maybe i can help

Thats good im glad to know that..
I mean I struggled a whole lot too before i could understand everything but once it became so clear to me i relized it was the truth. and when my friend taught me he went thru certain studies that showed me how false the other churches reallly were. 1st he taught me about how the idols. It shows where god says many times not to worhhip ANYTHING but him. not the cross not anything but him. It says how our idols cannot speak but have to be carried and how its like a scarcrow in the melon patch. then it clicked to me people carry crosses around there neck and if u think about the shape of a scarcrow its the exact shape of a cross. and that showed me how almost every church that believes jesus has a cross yet it confuses me because they dont see it. and then he taught me about how God says in rev:22 not to add anything to the bible. yet we celebrate , christmas and easter etc. yet its not in the bible so therefor it would be adding because God does not say to keep any of those traditions and if u look in any history book it shows how it was a man made holiday. and God also says not to follow the ways of the nation...yet i see almost eveyone keeping these false traditions yet again they dont see it. pshh trust me i use to love christmas dont ask me why alls i knew was that i got free presents so what the heck. but when i relized how much God did not like mans traditions i relized those gifts ment nothing and they hurt God. yet people think how does it hurt God how can we giving presents hurt God. God thinks diffrently then we do and to him its celebrating false gods. So it does not really matter what we think if we want to obey God. but after that study i relized that well if almost every church that belives in jesus does this then where is the truth. Well then he showed me all of Gods feast that God kept with his disiples and he told me how his church kept it and they also keep the sabbath day and the passover. and i was still confused because i knew about the 2nd comming before studing this whole truth. and it was hard to concept that God came back as a Korean man and that there was a mother and she took over after he died. I always had that in the back of my mind and i did not fully concept it. and we should not know about the 2nd comming and mother till the very last study because...as you see even though we see all the truth in the church. knowingabout the second comming to early into the study that stops us from going further in understanding. But when my friend told me about how it says in the bible i will come again a second time not to bear sin but to bring salvation. then it says i will bring a man from the the furthest contenet. he will come from the east. and its a known fact that korea is the furthest contenet and is also in the east. and when Father came he established the passover and wrote many books. No regular man can concept all of that. Because before father came everyone who is in the truth now was not in the truth and wouldent be in this truth. If he never taught about everthing we know about idols and saturday being real worship and expecially establishing the passover to show u how it is the only way to have eternal life. God would not come for no reason why would he want to leave his thrown in Heaven. But he did it for us because we forgot about the passover in time it eventually came unknown that we had to do it because people forgot. So God had to come in flesh again for us to have eternal life so that we could remember all of his teachings. I know its so confusing but Keep trying to learn and ask diffrent people in the truth to explain the things you dont understand maby someone who teaches you will click to you. hopefully you come to understand and one day are able to join us because its wonderful to have new brothers and sisters but i also respect that fact that you say you want to understand fully and not just jump into beliveing anything theres sooo many churches out there and there is only one true one and hopefully you see which one is the truth

God bless you <3
sister ashley

Kendall -
You said:
"The Church of God is strict with the teachings and do not except anything that is not plainly written in the bible."

Do you perform animal sacrifices?
What exactly would someone have to do to join your church?

To Rev and Sister Ashley ,

Thank you for being so kind,

I have a lot of questions about my faith to the Church of God .

It boil down to two category of questions.

Its teaching ,and believing.

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#1.To the organization of the Church of God:

What standard do the Church of God use to interpret the Bible ?

#2. To the people who believe the Church of God:

How do you keep the balance between faith and reason ?

Thank you


Creasy

I have another question for nice people of the Church of God.

I went to the Sabbath service for six month now .I never heard the brother talks about Jesus die for people's sin. Not once.

A brother told me ,there are 3 different period in the Bible ,the Jehovah God period ,Jesus Christ period and the Holy Spirit period.

The Holy Spirit period is also the Ahn Sahng Hong period , because we are in the Ahn Sahng Hong period therefore the Church of God teach people to focus on Ahn Sahng Hong .

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Is it true because we are in the Ahn Sahng Hong's period, we should only focus on Ahn Sahng Hong and stop talking about Jesus Christ ?

Can anyone out there show me the way.

Thank you


Creasy

Hi Ashley ,

I am going out with a girl she is a member if the Church of God.

In the beginning I didn't know our relationship would come this far.

But right now we are very seriously commit to each other, and our different religious belief has become a major problem to our relationship.

I like the people of the Church of God ,but I do not understand their teaching.

(May be I should say ,its hard to accept their teaching .But I want to learn how other people accept it and may be I can follow their foot-steps. )

I want us to go to the same church.

I want learn about Ahn Sahng Hong because my girlfriend goes to their church.

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Listen to your story had really help me a lot.

Thank you for sharing your experience .

I want to know how do you over come your doubt ?

You said :Once it became" so clear" to me , I realized it was the truth.

What is the key that make the teaching become " clear " to you ?

Is it when your friend told you about the " falsehood "of other churches , everything became " clear " to you ?
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I have been doing some study about " Christian worship the cross " .