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06/21/05
I'm really proud of my complaint to the Better Business Bureau about Philips
Update: On 8/12/05 I received a call from the Better Business Bureau letting me know that Philips would give me a full refund. If you've also been stuck with this defective TV, know that there is a way to make Philips pay.
Marvel at my eloquent phrasing. Admire the variety of word choice. Imagine some executive sitting in his office, thinking, "Look at this guy's masterful command of diction. We should not have messed with him."
Filed against:
Philips Consumer Electronics
One Philips Dr P O Box 14810
Knoxville TN 37914Complaint Description:
On December 18, 2004 I paid $301.97 for a TV set manufactured by Philips, model number 27PT6441/37. On January 3, 2005, the TV would not turn on. I called Philips' customer service line (ref # XXXXXX), and they told me this problem is normal, and that if I unplugged the TV and then plugged it in again, the set would work again. Again, they assured me this was normal and gave no indication that there may be something wrong with the TV (I would like to point out that the set was still under full warranty at the time). I unplugged the TV as instructed, and plugged it back in, after which it began working again. On June 14 2005, the power on the TV set stopped working again. I tried what Philips had recommended the first time I experienced the problem, but the TV still would not work. I called customer service (ref #XXXXXX) to report the problem. At this time, the TV was only under a parts warranty, and I was informed that I would have to travel 58 miles to the nearest authorized service center to have it repaired. I said I can not travel that far to have the TV set repaired, and the customer service representative (Mike) told me he would try to get approval to have the set repaired at a local shop. He also said he would try to have Philips cover the parts and labor necessary for the repair. For seven days I waited to find out what, if anything, Philips would do to fix my TV. I called several times to check their progress with my problem. At one point, a separate customer service representative told me that if Philips could not find somebody nearby to fix the TV, they may offer me a refund or replace the item. Today (June 21 2005), I received a call from Mike informing me that Philips will neither cover the cost of labor to fix the TV, nor will they cover the cost of parts if I choose to have the TV fixed at a location near my home or help me transport it to an approved repair shop. I have researched this model of TV on various websites, and have heard numerous complains similar to my own (such as those at this website: http://www.coxesroost.net/journal/2004/12/11/television-repair). It is clear that Philips has sold me a defective device, which they will not take responsibility for, now that it is past the 90-day warranty period.Given that the problem I have encountered with my television is common to hundreds of other consumers across the country; and given that while the product was still under warranty, Philips advised me to ignore the problem rather than fix it, assuring me the product was not defective, I believe that Philips Consumer Electronics owes me one of the following:
1) A full refund for the cost of the TV set.
2) Coverage of the full cost to repair the TV set, including parts and labor, AND a guarantee that the same problem will not occur again, within a reasonable time period (at least one year).
49 comments
I just sent the following letter to Phillips after reading your comments as well as complaints on C-Net, Amazon.com and a few other journals:
Hi. I'm shopping for a television and I have a concern. I generally prefer the Phillips brand for my electronics purchases. I've found them to be reliable and well-priced and I've never had cause to seek support or service for a Phillips product. So, as I said, I'm shopping for a television and I'm finding reviews of Phillips televisions online (specifically regarding model 27PT6441/37) indicating that a very common problem is occurring with televisions purchased in the fall of 2004. The issue seems to involve a faulty or inadequate fuse that causes the television to lose power after 2 weeks-7 months of use. I'm not so concerned with the technical problem. I know that once a large order of a faulty part is installed, it's virtually impossible to track down each affected unit to make repairs/replacement of the fuse.
What concerns me is the apparent lack of adequate support/attention provided to consumers who have purchased the product and reported the problem. I have to assume that a company as complex and successful as Phillips has a method for tracking consumer complaints to detect a pattern with regard to specific products. According to the consumers, Phillips has been telling them to have the product repaired at their own expense without acknowledging any failing on the part of Phillips.
I came to the Phillips website hoping to find that this was an issue that had been resolved, possibly with a recall or even a note indicating how to have the known issue resolved at Phillips' expense. I was dismayed to find no resolution of the issue on the website.
Please do something to reassure me that when one of my many Phillips products has a problem, I can count on fair and helpful support from Phillips. Generally, I trust my own experiences with products, but I'd be a fool to ignore the experiences of others in making my future purchasing decisions. Thank you for taking the time to read, research, and respond to my inquiry.
Joseph M. Reilly
Thanks
Thanks
Umesh
Anyone else try Sally's solution?
I purchased a philips 27" model 27PT6441 in December of 2004. It stopped working in July of 2006. I spent $125. on a repair. It stopped working again a couple of days ago. I am experiencing the same terrible customer service from philips. I have filed a complaint with the better business bureau. I hope to say that the issue has been resolved, but I don't have a lot of faith in philips. My Sony tv is still working after 17 years!!!
I had to laugh at how you thought no-one would actually read your article through. Different thoughts now I bet! Thanks for the info!
MODEL 20PT6245/37/SERIAL# DN1A053013706
THE REMOTE CONTROL STOP WORKING. TRY TO REPLACE IT WITH A UNIVERSAL REMOTE WHICH
TO MY AMAZEMENT DOES NOT WORK. THE NEW
REMOTE IS FINE IT PHILIPS CENSOR THAT IS NOT WORKING. IF THE NEW REMOTE WILL WORK ON MY OTHER TV & NEIGHBORS TV'S
THAN PHILIPS HAS ANOTHER PRBLEM. MY SET IS ONLY 6 MONTHS OLD. IF I HAVE TO BANG MY HEAD FOR RESULTS FOR GET IT.
WILL GO AN BUY A SONY AGAIN. WHY I PURCHASED A PHILIPS I WILL NEVER KNOW.
AFTER READING THE PROBLEMS WITH PHILIPS
TV'S MAGNAVOX SHOULD BE ASHAME OF THEMSELF.
Thanks for all the information...I am now going to suggest to my husband and kids that dropping it off the balcony is a good idea after all.
Customer Service, which was a waste of time. I spent over an hour on the phone taking to an operator and then the operators supervisor, who was even ruder than the operator. When asked to speak to her manager, I was given his name and told that he did not take phone calls. She refused to transfer the calll to him or to a swithboard operator nor would she give the address of the call center so that I could write a letter. I will probably never buy another Philips or Magnavox product but that does not solve the problem at hand. If anyone has started a class action suit, please advise and count me in. My next step is going to be sending a letter to the Knoxville, Tenessee address, filing a suit in small claims court and notifing the BBB locally. Please post a response to this complaint if anyone has any other sugestions.
I've owned two Philips/Magnavox TV's, and both have given out on me.
The first was a gift, the second I purchased.
When the first set went out, I was unable to get the company to repair it, and when I took the set to a repair shop, it would have cost more to repair it than to buy a new one.
Well I simply tossed that one on the curb, thank goodness for the trashman!
I am about to do the same with the second set.And I will never purchase any product produced by this company.
But it's just a trend of today's manufactors, quality and customer service is no longer prized, just the power of money. Products are not made to last, if it was, the company will make no money.They make the money by people rebuying and warrenties that they do not intend to honor.
I am not an electrican nor do I know one,so looks like another philips is gonna be decorating the curb!
I purchased the TV at Best Buys and in the past couple of months have had nothing but problems with Best Buys...we too will NEVER purchase a Philips product or purchase anything from Best Buys.
i too used to prefer philips stuff to other brands, but over the past few years i've had second thoughts...
firstly, the speakers in my philips TV are awful, even at low/moderate volumes they distort and make some very strange noises, more so with speech at a certain frequency it seems.
then, my amp, which of course is also philips, the amp is fine but the speakers... well, they are the same as the TV - they distort exactly the same.
but now..
my TV has developed a strange fault, (same with another reader of this site). it simply refuses to "listen" to the remote. and i know for a fact the remote is fine (and the batteries) i've even tried a brand new philips remote but it's the same.
is seems to be the TVs IR reciever not wanting to allow the remote to be used.
i would like to ask the other person who has similar problems, if he/she has any other devices which could be in any way part of the problem, for example do you own a set-top digi box that is under the TV? i ask because we have a NTL/virgin cable box directly under the TV, and it used to respond to the TVs remote, it didn't do anything appart from light up the LED on the front, every time a button was pressed on the TVs remote it would light up on the digibox. but it has stopped doing this now, so i am confused.
the problem is that, i need to use the remote to mute the TV, because simply plugging in headphones doesn't mute it. you must press the button on the &$^%%$ remote control. it's a pain in the ass!
thanks,
mrP
PS. we are so fed up of this TV we want to get rid of it and by a nice 37" LCD. but how can i sell this when it doesn't work? i am very annoyed, and will not buy a philips LCD.
my email address is thetekken@hotmail.com
anyhow, i have sold the TV to a friend who says it doesn't bother him either way, because once the TV is on, he will be using his Sky remote, so that's fine.
we have also replaced the Philips TV with a nice Sony Bravia, with a 40" screen and free DVD recorder.
so, at least we're happy...
for now...
mrP.
PS. does anyone still read this?!?
Thought logical thing would be to switch brands but once bitten twice shy, so decided check on other brands.
Googling reveals that this problem is not proprietory to Philips. Sony and Panasonic have similar problems aplenty.
Have electronic giants started to deliberately implement short-term obsolescence in their products so that they can boost sales via replacement purchases?
Oooh sends a shiver down the spine to think that one might spend a fortune on a 'good quality' product from a 'reputable' brand for the long haul little knowing what lies in store. Did thought crashing prices of electronics was too good to be true.
If the Chairperson of International Ombudsman for Consumer Affairs happens to read this, would you kindly note please.





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