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Church of God World Mission Society

So it seems the key to garnering lots of comments is posting about religious controversy (Top 5 Worship Songs). Last year I wrote on our blog about being visited by members of the Church of God World Mission Society and some of their teachings (Cult), which are centered on the belief that Jesus has already come and gone a second time, in Korea, and his name is Ahnsahnghong. So far, that post has 338 comments, including posts from members of that church defending their beliefs. It makes for interesting conversation, if you're into debating people who think you're as ignorant as you think they are.

posted by lucas | 11/11/06| 01:48:57 pm| Anything Else| 18 comments »


18 comments

Comment from: dan [Member] · http://personman.com
Your post got 338 posts in one year. Sara's post is 2.5 years old and it has 368. Impressive. You'll be passing it soon.
11/11/06 @ 13:59
Comment from: brendoman [Member] Email · http://brendoman.com
Dude, somehow I didn't subscribe to your comments feed. I've been missing out.
11/11/06 @ 14:18
Comment from: brendoman [Member] Email · http://brendoman.com
holy crap..... who are the folks posting on that? Anyone I know?
11/11/06 @ 14:32
Comment from: dan [Member] · http://personman.com
That didn't take long. The cult post just passed the worship post in number of comments.
11/14/06 @ 08:47
Comment from: brendoman [Member] Email · http://brendoman.com
My Harry Potter post over at TypePad has 776 comments, but that's been going on for 3 years. Lucas could easily beat that. We need some good ol' controversy here on brendoman.com. Maybe that will stir up our ad click thrus, give us some of that fat cash. I don't know what to write though. I thought my "Beyond Labels" post would really stir some of the crazies up, but I guess I need to do more.
11/16/06 @ 02:19
Comment from: lucas [Member]
The reason my post has attracted any attention is because there really isn't much info on this church on the web (at least in English, maybe in Korean). That and there have been a few people really adamant in defending what they believe (though two Church of God members stopped posting after being questioned on lots of things and never giving answers). So, to get more traffic, find a topic which doesn't have much info on the web, but which still has some hardcore adherents willing to butt heads forever. These people must have a lot of time on their hands too. Maybe out of work IT people (since they'll be online a lot). Or argumentative robots.
11/17/06 @ 21:20
Comment from: dan [Member] · http://personman.com
That gives me an idea.
11/18/06 @ 17:18
Comment from: olivia [Visitor]
Only on Passover night, Jesus Christ promised his Body and His Blood. Then the Church bought by His blood means the true church has to have the Passover. Although many churches say they have Christ's blood through communion or Eucharist, Christ ONLY promised it on Passover night. Also the true church that was established 2000 years ago did not have any denomination but was called the Church of God. Then the Church of God World Mission Society is the only true Church in these days because it was bought through the blood of Christ, the Passover. And who brought this Passover? Christ AhnsahngHong is the only One who set up the Feast of the Passover again in these last days according to the prophecies in the Bible. Although so many people speak against church of God world mission society, it is the only Church that did everything according to the teachings of the Bible. Truly God dwells there.
03/26/08 @ 08:32
Comment from: cham [Visitor]
We, human beings, who lost the tree of life and were destined to die, could have eternal life by God who came in the flesh and allowed the fruit of the tree of life, that is, the bread and wine of the Passover. However, the devil abolished the truth of the Passover at the Council of Nicaea in 325 A.D. It means the tree of life was hidden and no one could have eternal life. We could not expect salvation without the Passover the truth about the tree of life. In this situation, the one who is able to restore the truth of the Passover, that is, the tree of life, is only God as it was 2,000 years ago.

Heb. 9:28 wso Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many people; and he will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him.x

The purpose of Christ coming a second time is for our salvation. To bring us salvation the Passover is absolutely needed. The One who allowed us the Passover truth is Ahnsahnghong.

Therefore, Ahnsahnghong is Christ who came in this age according to all the prophecy of the Bible. He restored the truth of the Passover, the tree of life, and saved us from our sin and death. He is our God.
03/26/08 @ 08:34
Comment from: happylife [Visitor]
Christ AhnSahngHong is real God and second coming Jesus testified the Bible.
Every age only God could bring the Passover for his children's redemption in the bible.
In the old testament Jehovah brought the Passover and 2000 years ago Jesus did.
In this age Christ AanSahngHong has brought the passover for our salvation.
There is no doubt.
03/27/08 @ 08:02
Comment from: lucas [Visitor] · http://www.brendoman.com/wardwords
The CoGs have found this post! Maybe my favorite "prophesy" from CoG has to do with a person called Mother Jerusalem they claim is referenced somewhere in the New Testament (don't remember exactly where. But, essentially the scripture talks about a new city of Jersusalem (Revelations?). This new Jerusalem is what the church members claim is their "Mother Jerusalem", despite the scripture giving units of measurement for the new city of Jerusalem. That's one large woman!

I also like the reasoning they use, as happylife has demonstrated. Something like this: Bob ate a pizza three days ago. I say John ate a pizza today (I'm ignoring the fact that there is some debate about this, Jane said he had sushi). John is Bob. There is no doubt.
03/27/08 @ 09:06
Comment from: dan [Member] · http://personman.com
The fact that people buy into this utter bullshit so whole-heartedly in this modern world casts some serious doubt on the claim that the earliest followers of Jesus couldn't have been fooled and convinced to die for a baseless legend.
03/27/08 @ 09:42
Comment from: brofromzion [Visitor]
God bless you all. I'm a brother from Zion(World Mission Society Church of God) and I¡¯m a very open-minded person so feel free to give your point of views. I hope to learn from all of you. So, here¡¯s a proof of the Second Coming Jesus Christ, Ahnsahnghong:

The Parable of the Fig Tree
Father Ahnsahnghong
World Mission Society Church of God

The Bible prophesied that Jesus would appear a second time (Heb. 9:28). Ahnsahnghong¡ªwhom the Church of God believes in as their Savior¡ªis Jesus who has come a second time, according to the prophecy.

Then, when is Jesus prophesied to come a second time? Why does the Church of God believe that the Second Coming Christ is Ahnsahnghong?

Through the parable of the fig tree, Jesus revealed that He would come for the second time in 1948, when Israel¡ªrepresented as the fig tree¡ªwould gain its independence. Ahnsahnghong came in 1948 according to the prophecy of the fig tree, so the Church of God believes in Him as the Second Coming Christ.

Then, does the Bible disclose when Jesus will come?

When the disciples asked about the signs of Jesus¡¯ second coming and of the end of the age, Jesus said:

Matt. 24:3-33 ¡º¡±¡­At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, And all the nations of the earth will mourn. They will see the Son of Man coming on
The clouds of the sky, with power and great glory. And he will send his angels with
a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end
of the heavens to the other. Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its
twigs get tender and its leaves come out, you know that summer is near. Even so,
when you see all these things, you know that it is near, right at the door.¡±¡»

Since it is written, ¡°As soon as its twigs get tender and its leaves come out, you know that it is near,¡± we must come to know the timing of the fig tree and we must receive Jesus when He comes a second time.

First, we must understand what the fig tree represents. As it is written,

Luke 13:6-7 ¡ºThen he told this parable: ¡°A man had a fig tree, planted in his vineyard, and he went to look for fruit on it, but did not find any. So he said to the man who took care of the vineyard, ¡®For three years now I¡¯ve been coming to look for fruit on this fig tree and haven¡¯t found any. Cut it down! Why should it use up the soil?¡¯¡±¡»

What does Jesus¡¯ looking for fruit on a fig tree planted in a vineyard, for three years, mean? It means that Jesus preached the gospel to the Israelites for three years, searching for the fruit of the gospel. Therefore, the fig tree stands for Israel.
Through many other Bible verses, let¡¯s confirm that the fig tree in the vineyard represents Israel.

Isa. 5:7, KJV ¡ºFor the vineyard of the LORD of hosts is the house of Israel, and the men of Judah his pleasant plant.¡»

In the above verse also, the vineyard represents the country Israel, and the plant [the tree] stands for the people of Israel. Let¡¯s look at another verse concerning this.

Jer. 24:5 ¡º¡±This is what the LORD, the God of Israel, says: ¡®Like these good figs, I regard as good the exiles from Judah, whom I sent away from this place to the land of the Babylonians.¡¯¡±¡»

Since it is written that God regards the exiles from Judah as the good figs, it is clear that the fig tree stands for Israel.

In Luke 13:7, Jesus told His disciples to cut down a fig tree that had not borne any fruit. Just as He had told them, Israel¡ªwhich rejected the gospel that Jesus had preached for three years¡ªwas completely destroyed by Roman soldiers in A.D. 70. Following its collapse, the people of Israel were scattered all over the world, as a stateless people, for about 1,900 years.

After much time had passed, the fig tree¡ªthat had been cut and dried up¡ªbegan to revive. Its twigs got tender and its leaves came out. When did all of this happen? The revival of the fig tree occurred in 1948. On May 14, 1948, Israel proclaimed her independence and recovered her sovereignty. The fig tree, which seemed to have completely died, revived. At that time, Jesus came for a second time, as was prophesied. He was Christ Ahnsahnghong, whom every Christian had been waiting for. The Church of God received Ahnsahnghong, the Second Coming Jesus, as Savior.

Rom. 11:26 ¡ºAnd so all Israel will be saved, as it is written: ¡°The deliverer will come from Zion; he will turn godlessness away from Jacob.¡±¡»

Ahnsahnghong, the Second Coming Jesus, came from Zion in 1948, as had been prophesied in the parable of the fig tree. Now He is calling you. Will you let Him stand at your door, or will you open the door and receive Him?

We earnestly hope that you will open your door and receive Ahnsahnghong¡ªthe Second Coming Jesus¡ªand be given the promise of salvation.

Clearly, this is One of the Many prophecies Christ Ahnsahnghong fulfill for the Second Coming of Jesus Christ. Israel really gain it¡¯s independence the same time Christ Ahnsahnghong got baptize and started preaching the true teachings of Jesus Christ: Passover of the New Covenant, Sabbath Day, Veil cover for women, Baptism in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, The Feast of Unleavened Bread, The Feast of Firstfruits, The Feast of Weeks, The Feast of Trumpets, The Day of Atonement, The Feast of Tabernacles, Cross is a heresy, Christmas is not the birthday of Jesus Christ, Thanksgiving Day is a man-made tradition, False Prophets through Jesus Christ Parable of the Weeds and Wheat. There¡¯s only one church that keeps all Father¡¯s will and commandments. WORLD MISSION SOCIETY CHURCH OF GOD. I¡¯ve check other churches and they keep more rules taught by men, not from God. There¡¯s one thing on saying ¡± I believe in you Jesus Christ as my personal savior than actually following ALL His commandments and His will according to the Bible¡±:

John 14:15 [If you love me, you will obey what I command.]

World Mission Society Church of God follows ALL God¡¯s commandments and will so that makes them the true church according to the Bible. Other churches only keeps man-made traditions: Sunday as their day of rest, Communion as Jesus body and blood which is from the Catholic celebrated by most Christians whenever they want, Christmas as Jesus Christ birthday. God bless you all.
04/14/08 @ 01:31
Comment from: Jason [Visitor] Email
I have a hard time seeing the Bible, or any holy book, as "Reliable", in general. To illustrate the point, I would like to point out some similarities between the Bible and the ancient Egyptian beliefs (being the oldest civilization we have found so far...Sumerian's, Indians and Chinese civ's debatable - all roughly 3,000 BC - maybe more?)

1. Horus, the Son of God, Immaculately conceived by the Virgin Mother Isis on Dec. 25th. Heralded by the eastern star and adored by 3 kings. As a child he was a prodigal teacher and at the age of 30 was baptized by Anup and thus began his ministry. Later Horus was crucified, killed and buried and after 3 days was resurrected and ascended into the heavens. (sound familiar?) There are a lot more similarities between Horus and Jesus and Isis and Mary that I will not bore you with here. In fact there are dozens, if not 100's of ancient religions that share these same fundamental traits!

2. Mises - as a child was placed in a reed basket and set down a river to avoid infanticide, rescued and raised as royalty. Later was a prophet and spoken-to on top of a mountain, by god and came down to deliver the 10 laws of man, written on stone tablets, which today is known as spell 125 in the Egyptian book of the dead (sounds familiar also)

3. Egyptian(name forgotten by me right now), God spoke to this man and warned him of a global flood, caused by mans sins, ordered him to build an arc/boat with one door, one window, load it with animals, etc. He Released a dove later on which was the holy spirit..(sound familiar?)

The list of similarities goes on and on for anyone who wishes to study ancient history, religion, and mythology – we don’t learn these things in Sunday/Saturday school though...

My Question: How do Christians, in general, let alone WMS members explain these things?

It is hard for me to know these things and not feel that the Bible is direct plagiarism of religions and myths that existed before. However, it doesn't answer my questions of the messages and lessons to be found in all these religions.

It seems to me that if one studies the history of religion, and not Just the passages of the Bible - you will find that most religions are so more Fundamentally Similar than different.

Isn't it possible that over time, Extra has been added on? Politically minded men and Religion are a dangerous combination.

Most of us in this world are Christian, Jewish, Hindu, Buddhist, or any other Religion, not by choice - but because we were Taught to Be. Here in America, our whole social framework is Religious, whether we have ever stepped inside a church or not. We see religious leaders as authority figures above all else – We’re conditioned to.

I tend to feel that if we could spend more time Studying the Similarities of World Religions - Rather than the Differences... We might start to make Real Spiritual Progress.

Furthermore, nothing short of a "Supernatural" event can Truly Prove anything. That’s why the word “Faith” was invented.
04/16/08 @ 20:24
Comment from: brofromzion [Visitor]
Hi Jamie. God bless you. Hey thanks for editing my comment. Even if you edit my comments and put my name in vain, I’ll pray for you. The Lord knows the truth. If I put the truth in the Bible, you will delete it, because you don’t wanna hear the truth of God. Like I said before, I respect your faith.

Matthew 5:44-48 [ "You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you greet only your brothers, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.]

John 13:34-35 ["A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another." ]

Another thing, for you Jamie and all others who chastize the Holy Spirit, Christ Ahnsahnghong and Jerusalem Mother, this ones for you guys.

Matthew 12:30-32 ["He who is not with me is against me, and he who does not gather with me scatters. And so I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.]

Go ahead Jamie, delete it. It is still written in the Scripture and it will be fulfilled because it is the Word of God.

Matthew 5:17-20 ["Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven]

There’s still time. Believe and follow the Holy Spirit before it’s too late. God bless you Jamie.
04/22/08 @ 04:25
God bless you all. Jamie, Jamie, Jamie. You really hate the truth of the Bible. You know what why should I even bother to preach the truth of Word of God here on your blog. You like to pick on comments that only chastize World Mission Society Church of God but when someone who makes an atheist comment like Timothy3:16 who said:

“All religion is fake buddy. Learn your history, read some facts, soak up some knowledge.

It’s just jazzy superstition believed by ignorant people.

http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-thinkingchristians.htm

The higher the IQ, the less religious someone is. The more ignorant you are, the more likely you believe in superstition.

Name me any serious scientist or thinker who believes in Ahnsahgnhong or Jesus? Thats old news buddy. Wake up and smell the 21st century. We now know enough about the Bible, history and religion to debunk this crap.

All your prophecies are wrong, childish and superficial. You wont wake up, because like 99 percent of the world, you’re a moron who believes in childish things.”

So what’s up aren’t you gonna stand up for Jesus and prove through the Scripture that He is the God the Son or are you just gonna let Timothy3:16 mock Jesus Christ on your blog? You are unbelievable Jamie. You hate Ahnsahnghong and Jerusalem Mother and Their followers like me, Ryan and others so much yet you don’t say anything to atheist people that mocks Jesus. Jamie, how can you say your a Christian when you don’t even preach the Word of God? Oh yeah I forgot. You believe your gonna be saved anyway because you believe in Jesus and there’s no need for you to preach to unbelievers. Well don’t worry I will stop preaching the Word of God on your blog if that’s what you want since you don’t keep the original comments I put here. Anyway, I respect your faith and the faith of others who have different interpretation of the Bible like Jehovah Witness, Seventh Day Adventist and others. God bless you Jamie.
04/25/08 @ 01:57
Comment from: dan [Member] · http://personman.com
Who is Jamie?
04/25/08 @ 05:24
Comment from: brendoman [Member] Email · http://brendoman.com
If I understand this correctly, they're making comments about someone else's blog on this blog. Yeah, that makes a ton of sense guys. This is funny.
04/25/08 @ 10:10

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